Worrying situation at Redmire

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Re: Worrying situation at Redmire

Post by Jardine » Sat Nov 04, 2017 1:20 pm

Olly wrote:
Sat Nov 04, 2017 12:45 pm
There are and have been many carp waters that have been commercialised, plundered for stock, built on, filled, having a rail line through it, etc, etc.

Redmire - special? But so are some of the others, Wraysbury 1 group being one of them! Now a highly commercial fishery.

It is a shame - it could be rectified - but who will pay? Anglers? Regrettably and generally - a very apathetic group.

Although almost everyone on here would give a donation for it's upkeep.
Cheshunt Reservoir was filled in and built on, Longfield (Staines) was filled in to make way for the M25. I’ve seen the King George V reservoir drained and emptied, and have stood on the spot where I used to cast to and catch pike.There are many other examples I could list from experience. And don't forget all of the chalk streams that Dick Walker warned about that have suffered as a result of water abstraction.
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Re: Worrying situation at Redmire

Post by RBTraditional » Sat Nov 04, 2017 3:31 pm

Rather than arguing over the possible causes of the decline of the pool, why don't we set up a credible crowd funding thingy. I personally don't want to fish it, have never been that interested in fishing it (because it would destroy the mystery and history for me that it once held) but I'd certainly put my hand in my very deep pockets to help restore it to its former glory... but not if, it's run as a commercial fishery as it has now become.
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Re: Worrying situation at Redmire

Post by Tengisgol » Sat Nov 04, 2017 3:36 pm

RBTraditional wrote:
Sat Nov 04, 2017 3:31 pm
Rather than arguing over the possible causes of the decline of the pool, why don't we set up a credible crowd funding thingy. I personally don't want to fish it, have never been that interested in fishing it (because it would destroy the mystery and history for me that it once held) but I'd certainly put my hand in my very deep pockets to help restore it to its former glory... but not if, it's run as a commercial fishery as it has now become.
Trouble is it doesn't belong to us. In effect, its in someone else's back garden.

Even if this was possible, it would need a trust and trustees etc. etc.

It is up to the estate, and with Mark Walsingham's assistance, to decide what to do.
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Re: Worrying situation at Redmire

Post by RBTraditional » Sat Nov 04, 2017 3:39 pm

But no none would say no to "loads of money"chucked
their way surely?
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Re: Worrying situation at Redmire

Post by Olly » Sat Nov 04, 2017 3:48 pm

They would if it meant a loss of privacy and control!

I removed the fish out of Cheshunt to their new home, carp and eels where the most.

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Re: Worrying situation at Redmire

Post by Mark » Sat Nov 04, 2017 3:54 pm

Tengisgol wrote:
Sat Nov 04, 2017 3:36 pm
RBTraditional wrote:
Sat Nov 04, 2017 3:31 pm
Rather than arguing over the possible causes of the decline of the pool, why don't we set up a credible crowd funding thingy. I personally don't want to fish it, have never been that interested in fishing it (because it would destroy the mystery and history for me that it once held) but I'd certainly put my hand in my very deep pockets to help restore it to its former glory... but not if, it's run as a commercial fishery as it has now become.
Trouble is it doesn't belong to us. In effect, its in someone else's back garden.

Even if this was possible, it would need a trust and trustees etc. etc.

It is up to the estate, and with Mark Walsingham's assistance, to decide what to do.
Best we keep the TFF out of it, if anyone is thinking about setting anything up please do it off the open forum. :Hat:
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Re: Worrying situation at Redmire

Post by Jardine » Sat Nov 04, 2017 4:21 pm

Olly wrote:
Sat Nov 04, 2017 3:48 pm
They would if it meant a loss of privacy and control!

I removed the fish out of Cheshunt to their new home, carp and eels where the most.
Hi Olly,
Where did the stock of Cheshunt get moved to, would be interested to know sizes, species and how the removal was done. I fished it once as a guest of Roger Smith in 1977, the carp were not big but hard fighting and we had quite a few on cockles.
Did anyone ever write up the history of Cheshunt Reservoir ?
Best regards
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Re: Worrying situation at Redmire

Post by RBTraditional » Sat Nov 04, 2017 4:32 pm

Mark wrote:
Sat Nov 04, 2017 3:54 pm
Tengisgol wrote:
Sat Nov 04, 2017 3:36 pm
RBTraditional wrote:
Sat Nov 04, 2017 3:31 pm
Rather than arguing over the possible causes of the decline of the pool, why don't we set up a credible crowd funding thingy. I personally don't want to fish it, have never been that interested in fishing it (because it would destroy the mystery and history for me that it once held) but I'd certainly put my hand in my very deep pockets to help restore it to its former glory... but not if, it's run as a commercial fishery as it has now become.
Trouble is it doesn't belong to us. In effect, its in someone else's back garden.

Even if this was possible, it would need a trust and trustees etc. etc.

It is up to the estate, and with Mark Walsingham's assistance, to decide what to do.
Best we keep the TFF out of it, if anyone is thinking about setting anything up please do it off the open forum. :Hat:
Fair point Guv :Hat:
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Re: Worrying situation at Redmire

Post by Olly » Sat Nov 04, 2017 7:05 pm

Red Spinners are in the process of creating a 'History of -------'. I am sure some details will be in there.

I removed mostly old battle scarred fish with horrendously damaged mouths. It seemed that many were dragged through the pads at all cost. I think the last ones died about 10 years ago in their new home about 6 or 7 miles away..

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Re: Worrying situation at Redmire

Post by JPC » Sat Nov 04, 2017 8:46 pm

Jardine wrote:
Sat Nov 04, 2017 4:21 pm
Olly wrote:
Sat Nov 04, 2017 3:48 pm
They would if it meant a loss of privacy and control!

I removed the fish out of Cheshunt to their new home, carp and eels where the most.
Hi Olly,
Where did the stock of Cheshunt get moved to, would be interested to know sizes, species and how the removal was done. I fished it once as a guest of Roger Smith in 1977, the carp were not big but hard fighting and we had quite a few on cockles.
Did anyone ever write up the history of Cheshunt Reservoir ?
Best regards
Mem
There's a fair bit about Cheshunt in both of Kevin Clifford's two "History of Carpfishing" books Mem, plus of course a chapter in Jacks "Quest for Carp".

John

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